Comments on: ‘Free’ album still stolen on P2P-networks http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/ You need to lighten up, you take things too SERIUSLEE Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:00:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Yacero.com music blog » Blog Archive » ‘In Rainbows’ Goes Head To Head With P2Ps http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-5995 Yacero.com music blog » Blog Archive » ‘In Rainbows’ Goes Head To Head With P2Ps Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:30:46 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-5995 [...] At Ease reports: *Despite the fact that the new Radiohead album ‘In Rainbows’ was practically free for those who wouldn’t want to pay for it, the 10 new tracks were still downloaded illegally on peer-to-peer networks. According to reports from Forbes and ARS, once the album became available at inrainbows.com, it spilled immediately onto P2P networks, primarily BitTorrent. Eric Garland, CEO of BigChampagne, a Los-Angeles-based company that tracks illegal downloading on the Internet, said the album was grabbed by BitTorrent users roughly 240,000 times in the first day of release and has tailed off since in “a perfect half-life curve.â€? Over the following days, the file was downloaded about 100,000 more times each day—adding up to more than 500,000 total illegal downloads. [...] [...] At Ease reports: *Despite the fact that the new Radiohead album ‘In Rainbows’ was practically free for those who wouldn’t want to pay for it, the 10 new tracks were still downloaded illegally on peer-to-peer networks. According to reports from Forbes and ARS, once the album became available at inrainbows.com, it spilled immediately onto P2P networks, primarily BitTorrent. Eric Garland, CEO of BigChampagne, a Los-Angeles-based company that tracks illegal downloading on the Internet, said the album was grabbed by BitTorrent users roughly 240,000 times in the first day of release and has tailed off since in “a perfect half-life curve.â€? Over the following days, the file was downloaded about 100,000 more times each day—adding up to more than 500,000 total illegal downloads. [...]

]]> By: Pronsais http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3781 Pronsais Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:37:24 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3781 "Lichtman speculates that users may have interpreted Radiohead’s offer as a giveaway and so felt more comfortable downloading the album from other free sources. Fans may also have been turned off by the band’s requirement that users register by providing their name and e-mail and postal addresses." But that doesn't really make sense. If anyone does a simple search, most of these p2p sites require one to join. One must submit an email address, and password. Thus, if those who are stealing the album are worried about identity theft, (which is unlikely) they're mistaken. When one enters an email address, it's easy to track back and eventually find out the offenders home address, phone numbers and all the rest. I say these people are just looking to rip off all the music they can. We are not as innocent anymore as in the early day's of home computers and downloading music. Thus, in my opinion, these people know exactly what they're doing, and they're doing it because they can. It's as simple as that. It ticks me off because I paid full price for the discbox. There is no justice when a terminally ill person (that would be me) does the right thing by paying, and the healthy rip-off what they want. “Lichtman speculates that users may have interpreted Radiohead’s offer as a giveaway and so felt more comfortable downloading the album from other free sources. Fans may also have been turned off by the band’s requirement that users register by providing their name and e-mail and postal addresses.”

But that doesn’t really make sense.

If anyone does a simple search, most of these p2p sites require one to join. One must submit an email address, and password. Thus, if those who are stealing the album are worried about identity theft, (which is unlikely) they’re mistaken. When one enters an email address, it’s easy to track back and eventually find out the offenders home address, phone numbers and all the rest.

I say these people are just looking to rip off all the music they can. We are not as innocent anymore as in the early day’s of home computers and downloading music. Thus, in my opinion, these people know exactly what they’re doing, and they’re doing it because they can. It’s as simple as that.

It ticks me off because I paid full price for the discbox. There is no justice when a terminally ill person (that would be me) does the right thing by paying, and the healthy rip-off what they want.

]]> By: Pronsais http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3780 Pronsais Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:34:25 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3780 >> Lichtman speculates that users may have interpreted Radiohead’s offer as a giveaway and so felt more comfortable downloading the album from other free sources. Fans may also have been turned off by the band’s requirement that users register by providing their name and e-mail and postal addresses. >> Lichtman speculates that users may have interpreted Radiohead’s offer as a giveaway and so felt more comfortable downloading the album from other free sources. Fans may also have been turned off by the band’s requirement that users register by providing their name and e-mail and postal addresses.

]]> By: Dapp http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3365 Dapp Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:48:40 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3365 Mike, if you choose 0.00 as price, also the transaction is free. Mike, if you choose 0.00 as price, also the transaction is free.

]]> By: Ion http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3291 Ion Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:26:58 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3291 http://www.mp3search.ru/album.aspx?id=57355 :( http://www.mp3search.ru/album.aspx?id=57355
:(

]]> By: Wozza http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3163 Wozza Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:46:16 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3163 Oh, and I paid for the box set so I wasn't paying nothing. They still get my cash and I'm very happy for them too. I'll always buy if it's worth purchasing. Oh, and I paid for the box set so I wasn’t paying nothing. They still get my cash and I’m very happy for them too. I’ll always buy if it’s worth purchasing.

]]> By: Wozza http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3162 Wozza Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:45:19 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3162 My link was dead. You expect me to wait? My link was dead. You expect me to wait?

]]> By: Embarrassed 4 U http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3147 Embarrassed 4 U Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:11:30 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3147 no copyright? don't be so ignorant. You don't need a record label to own copyright. The author owns copyright as soon as it is created. Registering with the Library of Congress helps with legal disputes but THEY ABSOLUTELY OWN THE COPYRIGHT! Idiot no copyright?
don’t be so ignorant.
You don’t need a record label to own copyright. The author owns copyright as soon as it is created.
Registering with the Library of Congress helps with legal disputes but THEY ABSOLUTELY OWN THE COPYRIGHT!
Idiot

]]> By: Bebio http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3146 Bebio Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:08:45 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3146 no copyright?!?! my friend, the law says it clearly: if you create any work of the art, all copyrights automatically belong TO THE PERSON THAT CREATED THE WORK OF ART. The only thing that record labels do is usually force the artist to give away his own copyrights to the label. Therefore, Radiohead own all copyrights of the work they produce. I'm not bummed about people taking it from P2P. Radiohead made TONS more money with this move, than if the album had simply leaked in advance, causing no revenue whatsoever for the group. Overall, this was a smart move. no copyright?!?!

my friend, the law says it clearly:
if you create any work of the art, all copyrights automatically belong
TO THE PERSON THAT CREATED THE WORK OF ART. The only thing that record labels do is usually force the artist to give away his own copyrights to the label.

Therefore, Radiohead own all copyrights of the work they produce.

I’m not bummed about people taking it from P2P. Radiohead made TONS more money with this move, than if the album had simply leaked in advance, causing no revenue whatsoever for the group.

Overall, this was a smart move.

]]> By: Mike http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3145 Mike Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:05:35 +0000 http://www.ateaseweb.com/2007/10/19/free-album-still-stolen-on-p2p-networks/#comment-3145 Pretty sure copyright exists independent of whether they have a record label, and yeah, the cost is 90 cents (USA) and the time/effort it takes to register to enter your info. Also I am surprised how many people can't read. If you bought the discbox you got the download with it, yet I read of many who did two transactions (i.e., bought the discbox and then bought the album for 0.00). Wonder how many people like that bought it "twice." Anyway I am more interested to see how many discboxes they sold. Pretty sure copyright exists independent of whether they have a record label, and yeah, the cost is 90 cents (USA) and the time/effort it takes to register to enter your info.

Also I am surprised how many people can’t read. If you bought the discbox you got the download with it, yet I read of many who did two transactions (i.e., bought the discbox and then bought the album for 0.00). Wonder how many people like that bought it “twice.”

Anyway I am more interested to see how many discboxes they sold.

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